Reprint of Roofing information from 2012 Newsletter

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Attention All Homeowners - Shingle Failures on Thomasfield Homes

While the homes in Settler's Grove were only built a little more than a decade ago, many houses are starting to experience problems with their shingles. John Mellor of Master Court has gone to great lengths to get to the root of the problem and find a solution. He has this information to share:

"Like many others in this neighbourhood, we have a defective roof. Our shingles, which we upgraded to the newest commonly-available technology at the time, was installed in 1999. When we moved in, we an excessive amount of shingle granules in the runoff. When asked about this, the Thomasfield construction supervisor stated that it was normal for these granules to be shed for an initial period, and not to worry. We didn't worry for ten years...

"In 2009, we started noticing disconcerting signs of shingle damage - horizontal surface splitting and edge curling - and the alarm bells started ringing. Last year we were concerned enough to bring in the original roofer to assess the problems. Allan Beach assessed the roof and informed us that it was in rough shape, but would last another year or so. He also brought in a representative of the shingle manufacturer, who agreed with Allan Beach and suggested that we use the available warranty. We learned that there was a two year period when there was a manufacturing problem with the shingles - the same time period when many of the houses in Settler's Grove were constructed.

"We have applied for and received confirmation that there is a pro-rated warranty on the roofing materials, under which we will be reimbursed for approximately 1/3 of the shingle cost. We intend to be re-roofing in April. In reading the warranty information, it is apparent that this warranty is available as a result of a class-action lawsuit regarding all CRC (CanRoof Corporation) asphalt roofing materials dating back to 1972, but it is not clear why home owners in Settler's Grove were not made aware of it or given the option to join the class-action suit. The class action is still in progress, but there appears to have been a preliminary finding, which is the basis of the current CRC claims payouts.

"We have also learned that the warranty on the shingles is only available to the original homeowners and subsequent homeowners who paid CRC for a warranty transfer. For the 20 and optional 25-year types of shingles that were used on the Thomasfield homes in this area, the warranty covers 240 or 300 months respectively, with prorating degradation of the warranty value calculated at 1/225 per month for the first 180 months since installation, and either 1/600 or 1/300 for the remainder of the warranty, depending on shingles installed. The offered shingles are their newest bottom-of-the-line shingles, and not a suitable replacement for the 25-year shingles that we had upgraded to.

"We are not alone in experiencing trouble with our shingles. One of our neighbours, had a completely-failed roof requiring emergency tar spray and tarps, and a major insurance issue as a result. They have received a similar warranty payout, but because of the damage and the temporary nature of their repairs, required a new roof immediately. We are aware of several others in the neighbourhood who have had to put a new roof on before reaching any reasonable design life of the shingles. It is not known if they pursued this warranty mechanism. At least two other home owners I have spoken to have decided not to install CRC (CanRoof Corporation, using the brand name "IKO") replacement shingles, and instead replaced them with a top-end GAF product.

"In walking around the neighbourhood and speaking with several different roofers, most of the problems are occurring on the south and west faces of roofs or at points where the second story gutters drain onto the first story shingles. Each roofer pointed out that we should have:

  • steel sheathing in the gutter areas where the roof angles meet,
  • starter strips at the edge of the roof to mitigate driven rain damage,
  • much more venting, and
  • second-story drainage with extra downspouts added to keep the water from running onto the first-story shingles.

Two roofers have also pointed out that we have the minimum-code tar paper underlay under the first three feet of the shingles and that this should be replaced with a rubberized ice/water shield product to improve performance in driving rain and heavy snow, along with the entire roof having a water-resistant underlay installing.

Contacts regarding what to do:

1) To make a warranty claim or pursue a lawsuit, you will need your purchase agreement or similar information from the Land Registry Office. You will need this to determine the property address as known by the Province of Ontario (not the street number). Patene Building Supplies (on Victoria St), provided the shingles and can use this information to determine the exact date of your roof's installation, the quantity of shingles used and to provide you with the paperwork to make a warranty claim.

2) As far as we can determine, all Thomasfield houses in this neighbourhood were shingled by Allan Beach Roofing, who has an excellent reputation and BBB profile. He can be reached at 519-746-0752 before about 8am. If you wish to use another roofer, check the BBB registry and search the web for customer reviews as we found a few who had warranty and quality issues.

3) The class-action lawsuit against CRC was brought by Charles M. Wright, of the law firm Siskinds LLP in London, and the court order dated July 9th, 2010. Contact Sharla Stroop at 1- 800-461-6166 x2341 for the current status. As far as we can tell, agreeing to the warranty revokes your right to also join the class-action or to start your own lawsuit.

4) CRC, the roof manufacturer is at 1-800-521-8484, and has a web page outlining the details of the warranty available at http://www.canroof.com/warranties.html. When you receive the warranty notice, return a signed copy, and the company will issue a voucher for the agreed-upon number of bundles of shingles, to be used either by yourself or a contractor. The voucher functions as payment of warranty."

Based on this information, it is likely that all Settler's Grove homes will need a new roof over the next few years. On the next nice day, take a look around your roof and look for signs of damage or leaking. Hopefully the information provided by John will help others to catch any roofing problems sooner rather than later and avoid costly interior damage.

3 Comments

HI There,
Under investigating the BP Shingles class action lawsuit,it has been determined that my shingles we in fact CRC and have received an invoice from the installer.

My home is only a 2002 and the roof is in terrible shape. Am i still able to make a claim or have my roof shingles replaced. I was just made aware of this, this week!!

Please inform as soon as possible,

Steve

The Settlers Grove Community Association has nothing to do with the roofing warranty.
The article lists the steps you should take to get more information and the contact information for the proper people.

I do not qualify for the class action law suite but I do want to offer a warning for anyone having their roof shingles replaced to make sure they will have a warranty when the contractor leaves the site. You can bet that if you have forced CRC to address your claim, they will look for any legal way to reject any future claims.

I had my roof shingles replaced in April 2012 and I had what I thought was a good contractor but I found that the way the roof was installed voided the CRC warranty as soon as he was finished of his work. Please read the Warranty carefully and be sure that any quote you get from any contractor states that the shingles will be installed as per the manufacturers installation instructions.

The warranty clearly states that the shingles must be installed in strict accordance with the manufacturers installation instructions. The Instructions are printed on every bundle of CRC shingles and is the same instruction found on IKO shingles. The installation instructions indicate that the Ice and water shield is to extend 24 inches past the inside face of the exterior wall. In my case I have a 2 ft soffit and the exterior wall is 8 inches thick (3/4" siding + 1" insulation + 3/4" wall sheathing + 5-1/2" stud + 1/2" drywall) The roof is a 4/12 pitch. The roofer installed a single row of 36" wide ice and water shield on my roof and the top of the Ice and water shield is only about 2 inches past the inside face of the exterior wall. This does not offer any protection for water infiltration as a result of ice daming. The installation instructions also indicate that the metal drip edge along the rake is to be installed over the ice and water shield and over any underlay material used under the shingles. The metal drip edge was installed on the rake before the ice and water shield and the underlay. The installation instructions also indicate two ways to install the shingles the preferred method and the alternate method. The contractor did not use either methid but installed the shingles on my roof off set one shingle tab on alternate courses so in effect the butt joint of the shingles lines up on every second course. This method offers the least possible protection for wind driven rain penetration. Any one of these items will give the Manufacturer a reason to refuse warranty coverage on my roof.

I have contacted the Manufacturer and asked for clarification on my interpretation of their warranty document and they tell me they will cover the warranty on my shingles but the will not confirm that they have the right to refuse the warranty on my shingles. You will also notice that the warranty requires any changes in the warranty to be made by specific corporate executives so in this case the warranty tech is not authorized to tell me CRC will cover the warranty on my shingles when the installation clearly is not in accordance with their installation instructions.

This is not even addressing the Code requirement for Ice and water shield that has not been met.

George

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